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06/08/2017

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RetRsvMike

Ahhhhh memories!

Esli

I'm just going to say that, in the armor world, there are few things cooler looking than this. Wish it was during an actual gunnery.

Unfortunately digging in tracked vehicles is a lost art (among many). I had to teach the engineer squad that dug this battle position how to do it, from the standpoint of dimensions and how it should look. It is actually the best, most-correct position I ever trained in though, because the engineers did not have bad habits; they just dug it like it is supposed to be.

Esli

Just to amplify the comments on the position. The fighting vehicle, in this case a tank, but it could be a Bradley as well, will use two positions. When it is backed down into the hole, it is at "turret defilade." When it comes up to the firing platform it is at "hull defilade" or "hull down."

Jerry

This crews berm drill takes a bit of time, but they back up just in the nick of time....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9euAYAUyGs

SFC Dunlap 173d RVN

Kind of like the British at Roarke's Drift during the Zulu War. One damned good Officer of Engineers, stepped firing wall and a terrible price paid by the enemy. Great article!

timactual

How long does it take engineers to dig a tank position? How hard is it on the transmissions?


A live fire berm drill;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMJuDet_dZE

When I was in the Army digging in in general was a lost art. Training, materials, and official interest were nonexistent. Even the engineers couldn't be trusted to build a usable bunker.

JoshO

Driver Up! Driver Back!

Esli

Depending on the nature of the soil and whether you have D9 dozers (preferably) or M9 ACEs (Armored Combat Earthmovers), the planning factor is about 2-2.5 hours per hole for a two step position. Sometimes more, and in sandy soil with a pair of D9 dozers, much less.

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