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12/14/2017

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SFC Dunlap 173d RVN

Cold, hard, steely eyed killing techniques. I

Paul L. Quandt

I know that I'm nothing but an Air Force and Field Artillery puke, but some of those people looked awfully bunched to me. Also, is keeping your heels down when prone no longer taught?

Paul L. Quandt

Krag

RE: "I know that I'm nothing but an Air Force and Field Artillery puke, but some of those people looked awfully bunched to me."

This is a lesson that will need to be relearned in blood. The idiotic move to SWAT tactics (which are predicated on operating in a permissive environment) for use by infantry in wartime is unjustifiable.

Waco should have taught even the more obtuse observers what happens when that permissive environment you're counting on isn't exactly permissive. Lost a Recon Marine in that initial breach.

Stacks are a fine idea for ticket writers serving search warrants against surprised/unaware and most likely unarmed civilians. Less ideal in wartime against a determined foe that will fight back with automatic weapons and grenades.

However, its easy to train to, doesn't require destruction of the building mockups, and is much safer than training for real wartime breaching methods.

Esli

Krag, agreed. My combined arms battalion had two infantry companies full of riflemen trained/schooled/experienced in Iraq and Afghanistan. They were initially very resistant when I started making them think and train in terms of heavy near-peer opposition. For example, "that building you are assaulting is held by a rifle squad that has fortified it, not one snaggle-toothed guy with an AK." Or,"that trench you just cleared? Yeah, a platoon of BMPs is now counterattacking to regain it. What now? Where are your AT4s?"

Esli

Some good training here, though. Particularly the machine gun crew training at the end. Full MG crews actually employing crew drills and gunnery techniques. That's a good thing. I'm a critic with nearly 29 years in and I'm not complaining about much in this video except that I'm not involved in any of the training.

Quartermaster

Looks like someone is reaching back to "Stripes" for click bait. :-)

Envy is a bad thing Esli.

timactual


Is construction of field fortifications taught anywhere? Particularly with overhead cover (speaking of near-peer opponents and VT fuzes)? Are materials and tools for constructing such readily available?

The only actual training I ever received in field fortifications was some, er, "extracurricular" training where the 1Sgt. handed me a tape measure, an FM, and an entrenching tool and told me to construct various field fortifications to specs until I used up all the area between the Co. HQ. building and the next building. Sadly, I think that made me the company expert on field fortifications. I enjoyed every minute, which I think caused the 1Sgt. a bit of frustration.

I also received some "second-hand" training by observing the structures built by the NVA/VC. Beautiful work. I hope the Army learned something from them. I sure did.

Krag

That's some pretty good leadership. The only remedial training involving an e-tool I ever saw was digging a big hole until noon, then filling it back up after noon. Repeat the next several days. Actually building fortifications to spec would have been far more productive, and actually have been "training".

timactual


The best 1Sgt. and CO. I had in my 4 yrs. I have nothing but good to say about them. In spite of the mean things they did to me.

JoshO

In my time in I don't think we did enough with field fortifications or defensive stuff in general. When I was in Iraq for the invasion the most we ever did was little scratch holes overnight around the Bradley. I think the idea was that we would always be on the offense so they didn't emphasize it. A couple times I put some extra work into digging a better hole and people acted like I was nuts for spending the effort. Want to get freaked out? Think about the various hole you may have dug in the service and then go watch videos of some of those Russian artillery attacks in Syria. Holy crap...

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