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04/17/2016

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Griffiths_John

Thanks for posting this, a really great depiction of a very confusing conflict.

Some quick notes:.

Beatty's battlecruisers had lousy gunnery and poor ammunition handling because they'd been moved south to counter the german battlecruiser raids on the English coast. Deprived of their normal gunner ranges they were only judged on rate of fire, which is what they delivered disastrously.

Beatty's awful performance really deserved more criticism.

That Jellicoe crossed the German T twice in one battle really deserves more credit.

KenH

The man certainly let the douchebag Beatty off the hook here. Perhaps he will be a little more critical in his book. For there is a whole hell of a lot to be critical about. Not to mention that whole asshole thing. Anyone reading about his behavior when he took over the Grand Fleet from Jellicoe, would not be nearly as forgiving. No way

ultimaratioregis

"Nick on Vimeo" is John Jellicoe's grandson. One of the projects I am working on at the Naval War College is a Jutland Game using a combination of rules sets from 1905 to 1922, simplified as required for a 3-hour game. Nick Jellicoe is planning to attend, as is the grandson of Admiral Sims.

ultimaratioregis

The game is being sponsored by the Naval War College Museum, as a Centennial Commemoration of the battle. We are holding the game on 10 May 2016 in Pringle Hall, on the old gaming floor. Good stuff, that.

dhmosquito

I just got my copy of Jutland: The Unfinished Battle, by Nick Jellicoe; haven't yet gotten to any discussion (if it exists) of the post-battle kerfuffles between Beatty, Jellicoe, and Evan-Thomas. (So far the most informative, and interesting, account of the battle and the leadup to it is by Andrew Gordon, titled The Rules of the Game, and is MUCH more readable than slogging through Marder.) Agree with John Griffiths and KenH [above] regarding Beatty. I became convinced after reading Gordon's chapter entitled, "Dirty Work Somewhere". Beatty didn't even meet with Evan-Thomas, CO of 5th BS, to discuss Battle Orders after the 4 Queen Elizabeths arrived at Rosyth!! If one could have bought Beatty for his worth and sold him for what he thought he was worth, he'd be a billionaire (in 1916 £ sterling, even), no question.

ultimaratioregis

@dhmosquito,

The Rules of the Game is a SUPERB work. I learned as we were testing game rules the other day that General Mattis recommended it to PNWC and everyone he meets.

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